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tapczandzwo
Dołączył: 19.07.2014
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przyszedl mi pomysl na temat :P

Delayed cbety


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Napisane przez tapczandzwo
przyszedl mi pomysl na temat :P

Delayed cbety

OK, zobaczymy co da się z tym zrobić, ponieważ temat wydaje się ciekawy, a materiałów chyba za dużo nie ma -> bardzo możliwe, że następny trening zrobimy w takim razie właśnie o tym.

Póki co betujemy vs miss CB, na każdym streecie, na każdego przeciwnika, z każdego powodu :) Trening będzie poprowadzony też w trochę innej formie, ponieważ dodamy do niego mały wstęp i podsumowanie, ale oczywiście nadal przede wszystkim skupimy się na analizowaniu Waszych rozdań, więc zapraszamy do wrzucania spotów, które sprawiają wam problem, których nie jesteście pewni, czy po prostu takich, które mogą stworzyć ciekawą dyskusje.

Słyszymy się w poniedziałek o 19:00!


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $52 (104 bb)
UTG+1: $51.75 (103.5 bb)
UTG+2: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $50.96 (101.9 bb)
MP2: $75.36 (150.7 bb)
MP3: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $131.69 (263.4 bb)
BTN: $93.66 (187.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A J
7 folds, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.75) 2 6 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ???


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $28.69 (57.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $56.56 (113.1 bb)
UTG+2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
MP1: $59.15 (118.3 bb)
MP2: $50.50 (101 bb)
MP3: $40.29 (80.6 bb)
CO: $37.19 (74.4 bb)
BTN: $102.62 (205.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 A
7 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 8 4 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $28.69 (57.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $56.56 (113.1 bb)
UTG+2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
MP1: $59.15 (118.3 bb)
MP2: $50.50 (101 bb)
MP3: $40.29 (80.6 bb)
CO: $37.19 (74.4 bb)
BTN: $102.62 (205.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 A
7 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 8 4 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $3

Results:

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$18 pot ($0.81 rake)
Final Board: 8 4 6 4 7
SB mucked Q K and lost (-$9 net)
Hero showed 5 A and won $17.19 ($8.19 net)


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $36.74 (73.5 bb)
BB: $53.20 (106.4 bb)
UTG+2: $54.07 (108.1 bb)
MP1: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
MP2: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
MP3: $102.43 (204.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $51 (102 bb)
BTN: $59.26 (118.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Xx Yy
2 folds, MP2 raises to $1.50, MP3 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Q 6 Q (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero ????

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $36.74 (73.5 bb)
BB: $53.20 (106.4 bb)
UTG+2: $54.07 (108.1 bb)
MP1: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
MP2: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
MP3: $102.43 (204.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $51 (102 bb)
BTN: $59.26 (118.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A
2 folds, MP2 raises to $1.50, MP3 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Q 6 Q (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.75) 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, MP2 calls $5

River: ($18.75) 2 (2 players)
MP2 bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

Results:

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$37.75 pot ($1.70 rake)
Final Board: Q 6 Q 5 2
MP2 showed 2 3 and won $36.05 ($17.55 net)
Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$18.50 net)

Villain 31/21, AF 1,6, CB flop 41, turn 50, 350hands


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $60.87 (121.7 bb)
BB: $81.30 (162.6 bb)
UTG+1: $38.88 (77.8 bb)
UTG+2: $121.47 (242.9 bb)
Hero (MP1): $51.58 (103.2 bb)
MP2: $60.77 (121.5 bb)
MP3: $38.29 (76.6 bb)
CO: $57.50 (115 bb)
BTN: $96.18 (192.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q A
UTG+1 raises to $1.50, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 6 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 2 5 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ???


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tapczandzwo
Dołączył: 19.07.2014
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jesli ktos ma jakis ciekawy spot gdy bronil blinda pasywnie, jego przeciwnik na btnie zagral xb i hero jest na decyzji czy betowac vs missed cbet to prosze o wrzucenie!

Moze Rusher :P?


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $34.80 (69.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $51.61 (103.2 bb)
UTG+1: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
UTG+2: $145.01 (290 bb)
MP1: $50.63 (101.3 bb)
MP2: $50 (100 bb)
MP3: $62.47 (124.9 bb)
CO: $32.88 (65.8 bb)
BTN: $78.35 (156.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J T
6 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, SB folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.75) 9 4 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN folds

np. taki? :)


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $109.72 (219.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $64.74 (129.5 bb)
UTG+2: $23.36 (46.7 bb)
MP1: $54.68 (109.4 bb)
MP2: $50 (100 bb)
MP3: $18.75 (37.5 bb)
CO: $62.41 (124.8 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A 9
5 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, SB folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.75) K 6 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN folds


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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $54.54 (109.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $51.84 (103.7 bb)
UTG+1: $60.01 (120 bb)
UTG+2: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $113.90 (227.8 bb)
MP2: $61.38 (122.8 bb)
MP3: $84.10 (168.2 bb)
CO: $54.88 (109.8 bb)
BTN: $57.17 (114.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 8
6 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 7 8 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.25) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

River: ($5.25) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Results:

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$10.25 pot ($0.46 rake)
Final Board: 7 8 4 9 K
Hero showed 4 8 and won $9.79 ($4.79 net)
BTN showed A 5 and lost (-$5 net)


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muckinfella
Dołączył: 05.04.2009
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BTN: $50.00
SB: $38.32
BB: $37.50
UTG: $90.75
MP: $54.25
Hero (CO): $120.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 6 :club: 6 :heart:
UTG raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 4 :spade: 5 :club: 9 :heart: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ???


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JunixBwoy
Dołączył: 30.11.2009
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $26.35 (105.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $27.96 (111.8 bb)
UTG: $30.49 (122 bb)
MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $27.83 (111.3 bb)
BTN: $34.30 (137.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J 4
UTG raises to $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 6 Q A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($1.50) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, UTG calls $0.90, SB folds

River: ($3.30) A (2 players)
Hero bets $3.15, UTG raises to $9.20, Hero calls $6.05

Results:

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$21.70 pot ($0.98 rake)
Final Board: 6 Q A 2 A
Hero mucked J 4 and lost (-$10.60 net)
UTG showed Q Q and won $20.72 ($10.12 net)

UTG donk 60/19, cb 77, wtsd 30
SB reg

ze względu na jego wtsd i fakt, że to donczur chyba lepiej x turn?


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tapczandzwo
Dołączył: 19.07.2014
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$0.05/$0.10Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG ($149.2BB) 149bb
UTG+1 ($115.4BB) 115bb
CO ($76.3BB) 76bb
BTN ($245.5BB) 246bb
SB ($108.5BB) 109bb
BB Hero ($100BB) 100bb

Pre-Flop: (1.5BB, 6 players) Hero is BB A♥: J♣:
2 folds, CO raises to 3BB, 2 folds, Hero calls 2BB
Flop: 7♠: 3♥: Q♥: ($6.5BB, 2 players)

Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: K♠: ($6.5BB, 2)
Hero ???


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tapczandzwo
Dołączył: 19.07.2014
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$0.05/$0.10Zoom No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG ($261.1BB) 261bb
UTG+1 ($138.8BB) 139bb
CO ($128.3BB) 128bb
BTN ($488.3BB) 488bb
SB ($132.7BB) 133bb
BB Hero ($123.8BB) 124bb

Pre-Flop: (1.5BB, 6 players) Hero is BB 9♣: J♣:
3 folds, BTN raises to 3BB, 1 fold, Hero calls 2BB
Flop: 3♦: 9♥: K♠: ($6.5BB, 2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: 4♠: ($6.5BB, 2)
Hero ???


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ronix321
Dołączył: 04.04.2012
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Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2841462
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $10.55 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 1,9, Hands: 52348
SB: $9.93 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 10, AF: 9,0, Hands: 226
BB: $5.01 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 73
UTG: $5.01 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 22, 3B: 4, AF: 1,9, Hands: 274
MP: $5.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 1,8, Hands: 150
CO: $6.86 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 19, 3B: 21, AF: 1,6, Hands: 62

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with A :heart: K :heart:
UTG raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $1.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) 9 :club: 4 :spade: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.10, SB calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.45) J :spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.45) A :club: (2 players)
SB bets $2.32, Hero calls $2.32


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tapczandzwo
Dołączył: 19.07.2014
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rusher88 Autor wątku
rusher88
Dołączył: 26.06.2008
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Napisane przez tapczandzwo
przyszedl mi pomysl na temat :P

Delayed cbety

Siema :)

I jak wspominałem, na następnym spotkaniu, zajmiemy się dokładnie tym tematem. Więc jeśli macie spoty, kiedy decydujecie się na przeniesienie cbeta na kolejny street zapraszamy do postowania tych rozdań.

Tym razem znów początek treningu poświęcimy na chwilę teorii, jednak w trochę ciekawszy sposób - postawimy kilka pytań dotyczących zagadnienia i postaramy się wspólnie podczas treningu znaleźć na nie odpowiedź. Na koniec spotkania, małe podsumowanie tematu :)

Jeszcze raz przypominam, że im wcześniej wrzucicie ręce do tego tematu, tym więcej czasu mamy na ich przeanalizowanie -> zaoszczędzimy Wasz czas podczas treningu i same analizy będą bardziej dopracowane.

Podsumowując: Delayed CB - 18.01, godzina 19:00!


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gboorackq
Dołączył: 05.07.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Moj zakres sqz tutaj to głownie AX bluff i value, oraz PP. W zasadzie całość gram przez check flop.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $73.39 (146.8 bb)
UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $75.74 (151.5 bb)
MP1: $51.79 (103.6 bb)
MP2: $69.22 (138.4 bb)
MP3: $33.24 (66.5 bb)
CO: $25.86 (51.7 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
4 folds, MP3 raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $6.50, BB folds, MP3 calls $5, CO folds

Flop: ($15) A 6 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

Turn: ($15) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, MP3 calls $10

River: ($35) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $16.50, MP3 raises to $16.74, Hero calls $0.24

Results:

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$68.48 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: A 6 7 5 7
Hero showed A K and won $65.98 ($32.74 net)
MP3 showed 9 A and lost (-$33.24 net)


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gboorackq
Dołączył: 05.07.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Jestem ciekawy jak grać tego typu boardy ze słabym Ax na ręce lub z reką typu KK. Często gram je przez check, ponieważ spodziewam się, że w ten sposób uzyskam więcej value. Co sądzicie o tym podejściu?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $45.25 (90.5 bb)
BB: $94.26 (188.5 bb)
UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $53.46 (106.9 bb)
MP1: $59.18 (118.4 bb)
MP2: $50 (100 bb)
MP3: $82.03 (164.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $65.40 (130.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
5 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.25) 7 3 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($3.25) K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

River: ($8.25) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BTN calls $6

Results:

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$20.25 pot ($0.91 rake)
Final Board: 7 3 A K 9
Hero showed K K and won $19.34 ($9.59 net)
BTN mucked A J and lost (-$9.75 net)


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gboorackq
Dołączył: 05.07.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Obvious spot?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
UTG+1: $95.46 (190.9 bb)
UTG+2: $116.14 (232.3 bb)
MP1: $80.57 (161.1 bb)
MP2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
MP3: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $83.21 (166.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $52.06 (104.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 8
6 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) K 4 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.25) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB folds

Results:

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$2.25 pot ($0.10 rake)
Final Board: K 4 3 6
BB mucked and lost (-$1 net)
Hero mucked 8 8 and won $2.15 ($1.15 net)


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